Hyde

My Hyde ancestors

The book "Kin of Mellcine Thurman Smith" mentions the following on the early Hyde families:

Coat of Arms for Hyde: Azure, a chevron between three lozenges or. Crest: An eagle, wings endorsed sable, beaked and membered or.

(This crest is given for Hyde in Welles and Allied Families, p. 22, published 1927 by the Am. Hist. Society, Inc., and also in the Harleian Soc. Pub., Visitation of Cheshire, Vol. 18, p. 131.)

In Ormerod's History of Cheshire, Vol. 3, p. 394, the following is given:

Crest: On a wreath a crow, with wings elevated, proper. This is illustrated not colored in Ormerod. The coat and crest as given in the Welles Family Hist. is colored.

The family name of Hyde is derived from one of the six Hyde parishes of England, and these originally derived their names from location "at the hide," a plot of about 120 acres of land. John de la Hyde is recorded in the Hundred Rolls of Oxfordshire, 1273 A. D., and Adam Atte Hyde in the writs of Parliament, 1300 A. D.

There are several titled families of the name in England, but the highest are now extinct. The Hydes of Norbury and Hyde, County Chester, whose arms are described above, descended from Sir Robert Hyde, living in the reign of Henry III (1216-1272).

Hyde Hall (generally called Hyde Mill, from an ancient mill near the mansion) is the residence of the manorial proprietor, and was new-cased with brick by the late possessor, in his father's lifetime. A considerable portion of the former fabric is preserved in the interior; and from the arms of Hyde, with several quarterings (Impaling Brooke) appearing in the carved wainscoting of one of the apartments, it is probable that the hall was rebuilt about the time of the Restoration. (When Charles II came to the throne, 1662, following Cromwell. E. E. W.) It is situated on low ground, near the Thames River, on the verge of the county, and of late years the increase of collieries and manufactories in the neighborhood has added more materially to the value of the land than to the picturesque appearance or actual comfort of the surrounding district. A court is held regularly for the Manor.

The ancestry for the Hydes of Norbury is compiled from the book "Kin Of Mellcene Thurman Smith" and is taken from "Omerod's History of Cheshire Vol. 3, pp. 393-395" and "Burkes Landed Gentry Vol. 3 p. 2759-2760".  The author states that "This lineage does not agree with that given for Hydes of Norbury in Ormerod's Hist. of Cheshire, Vol. 3, pp. 393-5, but the differences are not great and can be worked out. The last five generations are the same."  The following is the Burkes ancestry of the Hyde family.

01. Matthew De Hyde was born about 1167 in Hyde, Cheshire, England.  His wife's name is unknown.   Omerod's History of Cheshire quotes 'that about the time of King John, one moiety of the township of HYDE was vested in a family which bore the local name and was then represented by Matthew de Hyde'. This Matthew had a son, Sir Robert Hyde, knt. Lord of the manors of Hyde and Newton in Cheshire; of Shalcross in Derbyshire; and of Halghton in the county of Lancashire, who married the cousin and heiress of Thomas de Norbury, by whom he acquired the lordship of Norbury, Cheshire. Descended from these Hyde's are those in Wiltshire at Tisbury and West Hatch and also Edward Hyde; Earl of Clarendon.  (source)

02. Sir Robert De Hyde, son of Matthew was born abt. 1193 in Hyde, Cheshire, England.  "He was Lord of the Manor of Hyde and Newton in Cheshire, Shallcross and Ferneley in Derbyshire, about 1209-1228, and Halghton and Denton in Lancashire about 1225, in which county he had also nine oxgangs of land in Heiton. He was living in the time of Henry III.  He married Agnes de Herdislee, cousin and heiress of Thomas de Norbury, who quitclaimed to Robert Hyde his right in Norbury, Newton and half Hyde, and thus Norbury came to the Hydes by this marriage."

03. Robert Hyde, son of Robert and Agnes was born abt 1219 in Hyde, Cheshire, England.  "He was grantee of lands in Hyde from John, son of Agnes de Herdeslee. He married 1st Alice, daughter of William Hyde, which William gave lands in frank marriage to Robert Hyde. He married 2nd Margery Stokeport abt 1244, daughter of Sir Robert Stokeport, Knight, and had by her Alexander, ancestor of the Hydes of Denton, an adjacent township on the Lancashire bank of the Thames, which he had by gift from his father."  Robert died in 1290.

04. John Hyde, son of Robert and Margery was born in 1245 in Norbury, Cheshire, England.  "His heirs used the Baggiley coat of arms, inverting the colors and adding a chevron. He married 1st Margaret Davenport, daughter of Sir John Davenport, by whom he had John and Roger, who are mentioned in the settlements of the Manor of Norbury and Half of Hyde, who appear to have died without issue. (This is where the lineage as given in Ormerod disagrees with Burke, who makes this son John the next in the line instead of William. Ormerod says that this pedigree appears to be the first draft of a pedigree from deeds, and the compiler seems to have gotten into considerable confusion in consequence of this John having a son John. This lineage will continue from Ormerod and following will be a copy of lineage as given by Burke in the 1939 edition of the Landed Gentry. E. E. W.) John Hyde married 2nd Ellen Baggiley, daughter of Sir William Baggiley, Knight, Lord of Baggiley and sister and co-heiress of her brother John, who d. s. p. in 1356. The Bagilley arms were: Or three lozenges azure. The wife of John Hyde is sometimes erroneously called Isabel, which was the name of her sister, who married Sir John Legh, her own name being probably Ellen, as that is the name given to her sister by mistake. On this Sir John Hyde was settled by Sir William Baggiley, in the 13th of Edward II, 1320, "the manor of Hyde" meaning most probably the other moiety of Hyde, which afterwards passed to the other sister, but he nevertheless obtained several estates by this marriage, and his sons John and Roger, by his 1st wife, are mentioned in the settlements of these estates 12th of Edward II and 31st of Edward III. By Ellen Baggiley he had William, mentioned in the last settlement (but not as the son of Margaret), Ralph, John, Thomas and Robert who married Elizabeth Staveley. (This Robert is given in the direct line in Burke. E. E. W.) Sir John Hyde served under the Black Prince 30th of Edward III, 1356."

05. John De Hyde, son of John and Ellen was born in 1271 in Norbury, Cheshire, England.  He married Margaret Davenport.  John died after 1364.

06. Robert Hyde, son of John and Margaret was born in 1303 in Norbury, Cheshire, England.  He married Margaret Stavelegh in 1328.  Robert died after 1401.

07. Robert Hyde, son of Robert was born in 1329 in Norbury.  His wife's name is unknown.  He died before 1439.

08. John De Hyde, son of Robert was born abt 1355 in Norbury.  He married Matild Massie in 1380 in Rixton, Lancashire, England.  John died in 1460.

09. Hamnet Hyde, son of John and Matild was born abt 1381 in Norbury.  He married Margaret Davenport in abt 1406 in Hendbury, Cheshire, England.

10. Thomas Hyde, son of Hamnet and Margaret was born abt 1439 in Norbury.  He married Kinaston Kynveton.  He died after 1523.

11. Robert Hyde, son of Thomas and Kinaston, "of Norbury and Half Hyde, died 22nd of Henry VIII, 1531, holding inter alia half of this manor, 8 messuages, and 640 acres of land therein, from John Legh of Baggiley, by yearly payment of 4 shillings, leaving his grandson Robert his heir. Robert Hyde married 1st Margaret Holland, daughter of Richard Holland of Denton, County Lancaster; 2nd ....., a daughter of Scargill, and 3rd ....., a daughter of John Boydell of Pulcroft, by whom he was ancestor of the Hydes of West Hatch, Wiltshire, of whom Edward Hyde, Earl of Clarendon and Chancellor of England, was grandfather, through his daughter, Anne Hyde, Duchess of York, of Anne and Mary, successively Queens of England."

12. Hamnet Hyde, son of Robert and Margaret was born bef 1491 in Norbury.  He married Margaret Warren in Poynton, Shropshire, England.  He died after 1526.

13. Robert Hyde, son of Hamnet and Margaret was born in 1522 in Norbury.  He married Jane Davenport in 1542 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.  Robert died in 1571 in Norbury.

14. Robert Hyde, son of Robert and Jane, "eldest son, of Norbury and Half Hyde, Esq., living at the Visitation in 1580. He married Beatrice Calverly, daughter of William Calverly, of Calverly, County Ebor. They had 6 sons Hamnet, aged 17 in 1580, died May 1643, Robert, Thomas, William, Urian and John; and 8 daughters Elizabeth, Alice, Jane, Margaret, Beatrix, Anne, Mary and Catherine. (This is the line as given in Ormerod's History of Cheshire, and this Robert's son William is the one given in Burke's Landed Gentry as the William Hyde who came to New England. E. E. W.)"  He died on March 22, 1614 in Stockport.

15. William Hyde, son of Robert and Beatrice was born abt 1600 in Stockport.  "He came to America from Chestershire (Cheshire), Eng. He descended from de Warrene, Stanley and Ferrers families of England. The name of Hyde appears in the Saxon Annals of England. Ann Hyde, daughter of the Earl of Clarendon, married the Duke of York, who became King James II. The ancestry of William Hyde is traced to Emperor Charlemagne through the Barons Roger Bigod, Hugh Bigod, John de Lacie, Robert FitzWalter, William de Malet, Saire de Quincey, Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare, Henry de Bohun and Robert de Vere.  William married second June 4, 1667, Joanna Abell, widow of Robert Abell. No children from this marriage. William Hyde "Founder and original proprietor of Hartford, 1636. Selectman 1637." (This is stated on a monument in an old graveyard of First Church of Hartford, Conn.) Founder and landed proprietor of Norwich, Conn."  William died on January 6, 1681 in Norwich, CT.

16. Hester Hyde, daughter of William was born in 1631 in Hartford, CT. England.  She married John Post, the son of Stephen Post and Eleanore Langley in March, 1652 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT.  I descend from their daughter Margaret Post who married Caleb Abell.

1

"Hyde Genealogy, in the female, as well as the male lines, of the descendants of William Hyde of Norwich" by Reuben H. Walworth, Albany, Munsell, 1864.

2

"The Hyde Family" by Bud Hyde (1996)

3

"Omerod's History of Cheshire Vol. 3, pp. 393-395"

4

"Burkes Landed Gentry Vol. 3 p. 2759-2760"